This podcast from the Wallace Foundation is part of a series that addresses summer learning for students. This episode captures a conversation among educational leaders in Oregon and New Jersey who discuss the role states can play in creating meaningful summer programs. Reflecting on effective programming, leaders explain what their states did to integrate summer learning into other state priorities and the ways they promoted equity, opportunity, and community. Discussants recommend a comprehensive approach and conclude that summer school be redefined from a punitive remediation exercise to a learning and enrichment opportunity for all students and staff.