This ~45-minute podcast episode from the Southern Regional Education Board Making Schools Work Podcast features two practitioners discussing the HOPE Protocol, a four-stage professional development framework developed through a federal grant focused on math instruction in North Carolina. The HOPE framework (Hear, Observe, Plan, Enact) is designed to move teachers beyond simply learning new strategies by having them observe those strategies in action with their own students and immediately plan for implementation. Key topics include in-the-moment coaching during live lessons, using graphic organizers to keep observers focused on student impact, and showing how imperfect model lessons can be more instructive than polished ones. Speakers also emphasize the critical role school administrators play in sustaining implementation through leadership, capacity building, and self-awareness. Though developed for math, the framework may be adaptable to any subject area.